Ever work on something and it frustrate you to no end and then you get obsessed with figuring it out? That's kind of what is going on with this karaoke stuff. It started out as a simple thing. Just find a few karaoke songs and burn them to disk. Easy enough. Well maybe not. First I have to convert them to a bin file. Then I can't burn them with anything but CDRwin which I don't have. Well I got a demo version that burns at 1x speed but then my burner is compatible with the cd+g format. What is up with that? Who knew? So I gave up sorta. But something just didn't seem right so I did another search. Someone has figured out a way, apparently, to burn cd+g on non-compatible burners. It looks fairly complicated, but what the heck. I seem to be doing a lot of complicated things lately, unintentionally. I'm learning a lot, but man, why can't some easy stuff come along every once in a while.